Moor Street

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Happy Days

By Dave Camm

 

     

I lived on Little Moor Street 1946-1951 with my grandparent’s Jack & Mary, my mum & dad and  aunt Edna who at that time was a nurse at the Victoria Hospital. My granddad was a miner at Warsop Main and my dad worked at the Shoe Co.

My grandma's sister was Lillian and with her husband Matt they kept the shop at the top of Bradder Street. They had a daughter Betty and when they retired they moved on to Cromford Avenue. My mum could remember Betty enjoying the attention of the Italian prisoners of war who worked on the railway nearby.

Moor Lane School

I went to Moor Lane School and had wonderful childhood round that area, I made lots of friends and the big lads used to take me with them on their adventures on the next yard to ours. There was Larry & Michael Wheat, Terry & Betty Cheeseman, John & Steven Hatton, others in the gang were Denis Green, Terry Bourn, Jack Bradshaw, Kevin Shooter and Richard Hughes. There was Mick Gold, Denis Clamp and my best friend at Moor Lane School Arthur Brocklehurst. Other family’s I can remember were Gibson’s, Richardson’s, Sanders, Wakefields, Bucklands and Kenworthy I think their eldest son Ted was a prisoner in the Korean War.

Round The Streets

Singletons shop was at the corner of Moor Street and Victoria. I can remember sitting on the wall of the Co-op slaughter house watching the sheep killed,  then on to Cambridge Street to see the loco engines being turned round on the table. Up to the top of Princess Street past Divits Ice Cream Yard, they had an ice cream cart pulled by a little pony, I think he was called Tommy.

Gypsy Caravans

Playing on the tip that used to be the Brick Yard pond, spying on the gypsy caravans that camped there when visiting the Bowers on Victoria Street. Playing on the hay field and then Cinderella Walk up to the Hermitage Ponds and the old quarry at the side. Back home through the brickyard past the club, where my mum’s cousin Snowy was the steward for many years. Great times!  

                         

This page was added on 29/01/2015.
Comments about this page

Hello Dave,  Enjoyed reading your page which brought a few memories back to me. Firstly not many people can remember St. Aidens Church.   Made me wonder if Father Oliver was still there to Christen you.

Albeit a few years earlier for me. I was around when the Brickyard Pond was still claiming the lives of some of the locals. I remember it being filled in.

Some of the names of the families I remember quite well, Shooters, I recall Eric Shooter. Richardson, Green.   Normans ran the top shop for many years, including through the war years. And Betty Norman was a big friend of my sister Ina. Betty married an old school friend with whom I went to school, and played football with, Bert Peet, he stood market on the fish stall. They moved into the Indoor Market when it opened it's doors in 1964.

Mr and Mrs Wright had the Brickyard club for a long time, At the rear of the club, many of the locals would play Pitch and Toss on a Sunday morning. The Wright's lived next door to the Norman's Shop at the top of Bradder Street, number 81.They had a daughter Mavis who was a real Tomboy. I sometime walked to High Oakham School with her.

I left Moor Lane School in 1945, but you are right, happy times and great teaching from Teachers who never stood any nonsense. I visited the old school last year, and my how it has changed. I heard that it was no longer called Moor Lane, for it is now called Sutton Road School. How sad for we who started out life there for it is still on Moor Lane.

By alan curtis
On 31/01/2015

Thanks  Dave for also  bringing  back  some  more memories  of Moor St.  I  recall  the  name  Brocklehurst.  I  believe   there  was  Jim  Bowers  and  Harry  Bowers,  one  of them  had a  pony  called  Mayflower  and  once  in a  while we  were  given  a  ride  up and  down  Moor  Lane.  Did  one  of the Wheat  boys act  as  an  MC  at  the  teen  dances  held  at  the  Brickyard ????   I  used  to  chum  around  with Ivor  Wakefield in  59-61  before  returning  to  Canada,  in  fact  I think  my  Mum  had a  friend  who  lived on Little  Moor St.  but  I  cannot  remember  the  name.  The  only  person  I  recall from  that  way  was a  lad Leslie Gascoyne.  I  think  he  may  have  live  further  down  just  on the  other  side  of the  Fish  and  Chip  shop.

Which  end  was  Singletons  shop  on,  I  know  there  were  two  at  the  top end  of  Victoria  St,  one  was  Balls ,  they  had a  daughter  called  Jennifer, she  went  to  High  Oakham as  well.  The  other  I  think  was a pet  store.  

I  recall  St  Aidens as  well,  especially  that  crawl  around  the  wall  to  get  to  Princes Street. "Thanks  for the memories".. Mike  Frost

By Mike Frost
On 09/02/2015

It  is  nice  to  read  more  stories  about  people  and  events  of those  who  lived  on  Moor  St,  whether  at  the  bottom,  middle  or  top  end.  We  all have a  common  theme.  Some  of the  names are  recognized  and  others  may  have  come  across  at  one  time  or  another.  The  Bowers are a  family  we  knew. I  believe  there  was  Jim  and  Harry,  one  of them  had a  pony  called  Mayflower and once in a while we  were given  a  ride  on  Mayflower .  just  a  short  way ride  down  Moor  Lane and  back.  Ah  and  the  gypsies  had  one  or  two  not  so  pleasant  encounters  with  them.   Did  not  one of the  Wheat  boys  act  as an  MC  at  the  teen  dances  that  were  held  at  the  Brick  Yard?  I  do  not  recall  too  many shops  on  Moor  St.  Was there  not  one  at  the  getty  between  Moor St  and  Victoria ?   I  can  remember  a  number  on  Victoria  and  Princes St. There was  a pet  store at  the  top  end of  Victoria,  then  came  Balls shop,  they  had a  daughter called Jennifer  or  Janet, She  went  to  High  Oakham.  Then  further down  was  there  not  a little  store owned  by  the  Osbournes,  or were they  on  Princes  St ?  Where  Moor  St  met  up  with  Victoria,  opposite the  Salvation  Army  was a  newspaper  agent,  then  the  cobbler, was that  Mr  Fell? and  then  Mountneys  greengrocers ?

Mum  had a friend,  Jessie  Sharpe who  lived  on  Little Moor  St.  I  know  she  is still alive  but  I  do  not know  where  she  lives  now.

I  chummed  around  with  Ivor  Wakefield  for  a  number of  years. Nice  to read  these  stories,  would  be  even  nicer  if  there  were  some  from  those  who  lived  on  Victoria,  and  Princes street as  well  as  from  the  people  who  lived  in  the  Brickyard  houses. Cheers,  

Mike Frost

By mike frost
On 13/02/2015

Hello Mike. You were right about Jim Bowers he did live at the top of Victoria Street close to the pet shop you mentioned.

 Mr Fell the cobbler at the top of Moor Street if my memory serves me right had a leg iron, his son Stuart was in my class at Moor Lane. Regarding the Wheat brothers you could be right their father Danny was steward for many years. He then went on to be the Landlord of Wheat Sheaf in Mansfield.

Singletons shop was at the bottom of Victoria Street about two doors away from the fish shop. They had two daughters Carol and Glennis. Ivor Wakefield was one of my old friends, I often see him around town. One of the Moutneys girls was in my class. The Post Office News agents shop opposite the Salvation Army was owned by Mr Tadcastle I can remember his son Roger.  Two other friends at that time Malcolm Buckland and Mick Turner. Regards Dave Camm

 

By Dave Camm
On 16/02/2015

Hello  Dave: nice to hear from a  fellow  "Moor str". I do  remember the  Fells, they live in the houses between the terraces houses, I think there  were 4 cottages that were behind the  sports field of Moor Lane School.  I  lived at #126 for 3 or 4 years. The  area between was an empty lot were  we had bonfires etc... it  was almost  directly across from some ones garage  we played cricket against the garage  door.  Also at that end was  Walter  Farmelo (sic ?) and a ginger haired  lad, who I cannot recall his  name.  At  my end, the top, was an older lad called Michel, the Marriot  sisters, on was  Sonia, the other is  Cheryl. Then there was Helen Savage  and her sister, they came to see their  grandparents Mr and Mrs Turner, who  lived at 138. Next  door to my Grandma Prices was the Reases,  at 142. On  the  opposite  side were 2  more sisters, the Smiths, I  think  they were related as my Aunt Alice married their  Dad  Jim, but I am a bit fuzzy  on that one. Then Ivor  just  lived  down the street a bit.  Good  to  hear  he  is  still  around;  the  last  time  I  saw  him  was  in  1971 when  I  made  a visit  back  and ran  in  to  him at the  Brickyard.

I  remember the Mountneys quite well. Sandra went to High Oakham as well  and sometimes we  walked back from  there, via the "short cut"  We kept  in  touch  when I  came to  Canada in  1961  for a short  while, then she met  a chap who was in the RAF got  married and that was the last I  heard.

Thanks for recalling all those people,  I do recall Tadcastle now and his son  Roger.  That is what I like about  this  format, brings back those "day  of  yore"

Would be nice to meet all of the  people mentioned, hopefully they are  still around, and  reminisce those  great times on Moor St and the area around it.

Cheers   Mike

By Mike Frost
On 21/02/2015

Hello Mike. Although I didn't live in the Moor St area I was really interested in your comments as I know Sandra Mountney(as was) very, very well. The chap who was in the RAF who she married was my step brother. She is still going strong and I see her about 2 or 3 times a year as she does not live in the Mansfield area. Her sister still lives in Mansfield though.

By Pete Higgins
On 25/02/2015

On reading the comments about people in the Moor Street area, it prompted me to look out a couple of photographs I have of my Wolf Cubs of the 23rd Mansfield (Salvation Army) Pack taken around 1955/56 I think.  Ivor is on them but I can't remember the other names.  I am going to submit a write up with them and it will come under the Salvation Army heading.  Ivor's mother Rose worked with my mother at Barringers Metal Box for a short while.  My mother went to work just for a few months to earn enough to buy a television to watch the coronation in 1953.

Shirley Blythe

By Shirley Blythe
On 26/02/2015

Hello  Shirley: That  would  be  wonderful.  Ivor  and  I  used  to  go  to  the  Salvation  Army  each  Sunday,  I  was  not  in  the  Wolf  Cubs,  however  I  was  in  the  Boy  Scouts,  Mr  Betts  was the  scout master ,  that  was when I  return  from  Canada  in  1955.  He had a son  called  Michael  if memory  serves  me  correct. Ivor  and  myself  spent  a  summer  down  at  his  Grandmothers in  Burlseldon( sic ?)   near  South Hampton.  My  mum  also  worked  at  Barringers,  but  not  sure  if  she  worked   with  Rose.   Everyone  seemed  to  meet  up  at  the  Brickyard .  Looking  forward  to  your comments 

Cheers

Mike 

 

By Mike Frost
On 28/02/2015

Regarding the top shop on Bradder Street, Mrs Norman the owner was my grandma‘s sister Lilian. I went most weeks to see her. What I remember most about the inside of the shop was a massive glass container near the window full of a medication that was guaranteed to cure everything. Their daughter Betty did marry Bert Peat the fishmonger he was her second husband, her daughter Denise emigrated to Australia and Betty and Bert followed in the mid 70s. The last I heard she was still alive. Many memories of Moor Street and the brickyard. My grandad had an allotment right at side of the pond he could remember many bodies being retrieved he used to say the summer time was the worst they would come out of the club and then go for a swim. Dave Camm.           

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            

By Dave Camm
On 06/03/2015

Hi all, A lot of good memories from Bradder St, and the Brickyard, Area.I can just remember the Coronation party Bradder St., we all got a mug with the Queens head on it. I know most of the people mentioned who lived in the area. Saw Ivor Sainburys last week. A few more names for you Neil, Ann and Lynn Lyons. Sadly Neil past away in Nov 2014, he was also my brother in law. Eric Barthorpe and his dog Bob, Pete Mason,Kenny Wright. Bill Pedley, Phoebe Pedley.                                                       Hayfield Ponds and Great Crested Newts, Frog Spawn, Toads. Fish - Roach, Gudgeon caught from Hermatige ponds. Mike Frost I remember you going to Canada, I'm not far from you Brick kiln Lane.

By Colin Flowers 6/3/15
On 08/03/2015

Hello  Colin:  I  must  say  it  is  great to  hear  from  someone  who  I  went  to  school  with,  thanks  for  remembering.  I  am  still  living  in Canada  and  still  working.   Do you  happen  to  meet  up  or  know  what  happened to  our  school chums  from  High Oakham?  The  ones  I  recall  are  John  Reville,  he  lived  on  Princes  Street,  Christine  Smith,  "Rusty"  Phillips,  Carl  Norman  and  I  think  there  1  or  2  from  the  Bradder Street  and  Brickyard  area. Again, nice  to hear  about  you.

Regards, Mike

By Mike Frost
On 13/03/2015

Hello, nice to see these reminiscences of Moor Street, where I also lived, at No.82, from 1943 to Feb 1950, having been born in Dec. 942 at Victoria Hospital. I, too, was christened at St Aidan's Church. My parents move back to Moor St. from my father's parents house on Terrace Road presumably coincided with my fathers entry into the RAF as I would imagine that it was my mother's wish to return to live with her parents who were Charlie and Cissie Noakes-Mooring (usually referred to as either Noakes or Mooring). On attaining school age (Dec '47) I attended Moor Lane infants, Head Teacher Miss Rowell, class teacher Miss Davies (Davis?). The names that I remember: are Alan Morton, Michael Binch, Jennifer Fell (daughter of the cobbler), Pat Cockayne, Peter Endersby, Colin Slack, John Hatton, too, sounds familiar. The adults I remember were George and Nelly Morley (no.80), Tom and Jessie Parsons (no.84, they had two girls younger than me, Pat and Denise), Mrs Stone (Jessie Parsons' mother), the name Shooter is also familiar, Mrs Chadwick, Nelly Morley's mother, lived a little further up with her other daughter, Alice. Some shopping was done at Mrs Barrows' shop, just through the alleyway on Victoria Street, and Marsden's, whose manager was Harold Williams. I also remember a greengrocer coming round with his produce on a lorry.   

By Martin Gorner
On 15/03/2015

Hi Mike long time no see. Don't  see a lot of the old school friends. Here is a few I have seen, Roy Overton, Rob Howison, Steve Godber, Ann and Lynn Lyons, Arnold Clark, Garry Owen, Steve Taylor, Paul Townroe. 

 Do you remember the pigeon men, Arthur Smith, Vic Divit and a few others, I was often sent to Midland Hotel to find out the release time, which they put in a window. Those were the days. 

By Colin flowers
On 24/03/2015

Hello Martin, nice to read your article. The greengrocer van you mentioned was owned by Arthur Smith and his assistant little Lou Mallatrat. When Arthur got exited he would start to stutter he was also a keen Pigeon fancier his loft was at the top of Moor Street. Regards Dave Camm.

By Dave Camm
On 24/03/2015

Hi  Colin,  Dave: Thanks  for  jarring  the  memory  with  some  of the  names.  I  remember  Roy  from  when  he  lived  on  Cherry  Grove  and  heading  over  to  the  hayfield  to  play  football. Sorry  to  read  that  he  had  passed  away,  I read  the  Chad  online.  I mentioned  some  of the  names  to  my  sister  Margaret,  she  is  younger than  me,  and  she  recalls  the  Lyons  sisters,  but  the  other  names  are  vague,  except  for  Garry Owen. 

I  do  recall  the  pigeon fanciers, used  to  sit  on  Grandma Prices  wall  at  140 Moor... which  is  right  across  from where  the  pigeons  were released.  If memory  serves  me  correctly there  was a garage close  to  that  enclosure, it  would  be  across  from  around  #130  Moor St.  I  recall  going  in  there  when  about  5 just  to  watch  the  mechanics, they  had  good biscuits.

Was Sandra  Divit  the  daughter of  Vic ? my  Mum,  who  will  be  90  this  year,  does  recall  the  Divit  family   from  when  she  was a  girl.  I  think  Divits  lived  on  Victoria or  Princes  Street  did  they  not?

One  thing  I  have  noticed  that  many  of the  people  from  the  Bradder St,  Brick Yard through  to  Moor Lane do  seem to  be  adding  their comments  and  stories  from  the  past, fantastic  to  read  all  of them.  Although  I  wish  some more  people  from  the "top end"  would  submit stories.

Thanks  again  Colin  for  bringing  up  those  names,  and  Dave  about Arthur  Smith  and the  greengrocer  van. certainly  do  not  get  that  personal  service any  more.Does  the  milkman  still  make  his  rounds?Regards Mike

By mike frost
On 31/03/2015

34 Moor Street - It would appear, David Camm, that my parents bought your house as we moved into 34 Moor Street in 1952.  Remember Richard Hughes and the Wheaton brothers.  The Tedcastle's had the post office; the children were Roger (eldest) Ian and then Diane.  I went to Moor Lane until 1958 and then to Brunts Grammar.  I currently spend my time between Baja California, Mexico and Southern California.

By Carol Wells
On 11/11/2015

Hello Carol,

 We left Moor Street in 1952 after the death of my Grandmother. Can you remember Mrs Lager and her daughter Jean, they lived next door? Jean used to take me out in my pram. I left Moor Lane School in 1957 so our paths may have crossed. We've visited the West Coast of America many times but getting on a bit now yet still " California Dreamin' " 

                            Best Wishes Dave Camm.

By Dave Camm
On 09/12/2015

I well remember Jim Bowers. He had a wonderful Teddy Boy Suit in which he used to go to the Palais in.

By Peter Hibbert
On 05/11/2017

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